Loops said:
I am a tyrant yet I care. I have never taken any pains to hide the way I manage, I am a strait up person who doesn’t take much shit. Yet always open to suggestions as long as they are just another flame. I like to think I’ve always had time for those who were prepared to give something to the zone not just complain about what they didn’t like. Which is why one of my legacies I think will be the management team we’ve built over the years that will now support chy in her endeavors to keep DSB as one of the best (and hopefully the most popular) zone in SubSpace / Continuum.
Loops might be remembered as being harsh sometimes and being surrounded with controversy, but one thing that strikes me is how many people Loops thanked. He even thanked many people who he mentioned he didn't get a long with or who disagreed with him. This respect was founded on the basis that people who disagree with you, always keep you sharp, and provide a different perspective. They challenge you to be better and when they may be wrong they validate your position and solidify your certainty.
Loops said:
Which is why one of my legacies I think will be the management team we’ve built over the years that will now support chy in her endeavors to keep DSB as one of the best (and hopefully the most popular) zone in SubSpace / Continuum. Zvuv, TLordTango, LLC, Blazzin, Atomicboy, Ayden, WickedAngel, Genghis Bong, Sushi*girl, BossBoy, FuzzBall, Engima42, Shellback, IMat, Buffy, Travesty, The_Snake, Bjorn, Jagr, Hoch, Argyle, Ministry, Pravo, Joee.
The fact that Loops had so many people to thank, was a sign of a healthy zone. It was a sign that there was so many people on staff willing to help who were most importantly, given the opportunity to do it. What Loops states more than anything as his Legacy in DSB was leaving behind a Golden Development team that would see DSB through the years. Keep in mind this Golden Dev team was either fired (yes fired, forcefully removed) or resigned from staff because of Hoch. Shellback, Pravo, Ministry, Turboslug, Tango, the_snake, the list is endless, just because they never said "yes" all the time. Not to go overboard but to quote polix "Stagnation is the enemy" And instead of promoting and keeping the spirit of DSB alive - the DSB Development team - Hoch has all but axed that team himself.
Loops said:Loops not only left behind an amazing Development team but himself and DSB staff actually recruited that amazing Development team, which is not something that can be said about Hoch and DSB today. Beyond just recruiting people though, Loops took it one step further, and had a desire to be friends with the development team and tried to get to know everyone. But one of the most touching, and true signs of someone who really respects the community and its well being was the fact that he understood he didn't have time to get to know everyone anymore, and that he didn't have time for the zone and he stepped down and let someone else take over for the benefit of everyone.
ALL DSB Staff: Most of you I don’t know anymore, this I want to apologise for. I can remember the days when I knew everyone, everything they were doing and all the gossip they had to share. I’m sorry to those I haven’t gotten to know.
Mozart said:
With Chy as the heart of DSB,
One thing that really gets me, is Mozarts saying ' Chy was the heart of DSB ' DSB actually had a heart, and that is definitely something that is lacking now from Hoch and the rest of DSB Staff.
This followed by a Conversation between me and DSB Smod Beer Hunter.
Conversation said:
Michael says (4:56 PM)
LOL
Michael says (4:57 PM)
If you refuse to become something over one name who you see on regular basis, your intentions to help are lacking.. big time.
did you get that line from my case?
Beer Hunter says (4:57 PM)
lol
No
Michael says (4:57 PM)
i agree with you, but really staff does the same thing to other people imo
Beer Hunter says (4:57 PM)
I merely said the bottom line: I got no fucking chance to change EVERYTHING in DSB.
Beer Hunter says (4:58 PM)
I am working under some1, everybody forget that
Michael says (4:58 PM)
well now you are maybe
but no one knows who you really are
because of that
Michael says (4:59 PM)
could just be the same old story if you were in charge too
could be different, who knows
Beer Hunter says (4:59 PM)
nah
You dont know what I am if snake didnt tell you
Michael says (4:59 PM)
better than hoch at least
Michael says (5:00 PM)
your actually active
and i could always actually fucking talk to you without being banned =p
even if you never listened
Beer Hunter says (5:00 PM)
Everything I have done for DSB is decided by two things: What players want and what Hoch decides.
Michael says (5:01 PM)
yeah but really beer assuming you were in charge of your zone, you run the risk of becoming another hoch
i bet hoch was better at the start
because you guys have pride as a common trait
and that leads to shitting on other people
Michael says (5:02 PM)
especially in a position of power where it could get out of hand
Beer Hunter says (5:02 PM)
I would never become anything like hoch. I would want to see DSB ran by 3-5 people who have power to make decisions. I of course see myself in that team but all have equal power
Michael says (5:02 PM)
like it could get to your head
yeah well the zone has a lack of communication
Beer Hunter says (5:03 PM)
That is main thing I want to change!
Michael says (5:03 PM)
lol well if your ever in a position to do something
Michael says (5:04 PM)
start with unbanning me
LOL
Beer Hunter says (5:04 PM)
Well its pretty obvious if hoch went away, all his unjustified bans would go away at once and some players would be re-instated to staff.
And then we would have big get together online for everybody to share opinions
and discuss the future
Michael says (5:05 PM)
even if hoch was gone i desire no staff position
dsb needs fair policy and active and caring people
Beer Hunter says (5:06 PM)
Im sure you could have your arena to develope
Michael says (5:06 PM)
anyway i cant do much
my influence is a double edged sword in this game
i never spent time raising an army to destroy hoch
Michael says (5:07 PM)
i just spent time being a fool =p
the person who has the most power is the one with the most friends
and thats not me
then again people might admire me for my outspoken attitude
Michael says (5:08 PM)
but hoch will be there for a long time most likely
Beer Hunter says (5:08 PM)
Being in charge of something cant be popularity based. Like I said I dont want to move from one leader to another, permanent change for leadership should be done
So dictators cannot take over
Michael says (5:09 PM)
yeah
Beer Hunter says (5:09 PM)
By having a group of people in charge that could be possible, no1 could have his own way unless others agreed, no matter what
Michael says (5:09 PM)
but i meant if your hoping i can get rid of hoch
i cant
Michael says (5:10 PM)
and i never devoted time to that cause
i just speak my mind i never backed it up with an army of supporters
Beer Hunter says (5:10 PM)
I didnt say you need to get rid of hoch. Perhaps somebody else will
Michael says (5:11 PM)
everything in ss is a popularity contest
lol
Beer Hunter says (5:11 PM)
Being liked got nothing to do with this
Some of the points you raised on that ssgn thread are valid, the one's towards hoch anyway.
Beer Hunter says (5:12 PM)
I dont know who adraak is but he has got the main point: the zone decisions go through the owner who can decide any way he likes
Like I said, nothing in DSB moves without hoch.
Even he is not around, he calls the shots
Beer Hunter says (5:13 PM)
If hoch says league goes 12vs12, it goes 12vs12.
If he says it goes 3v3, it goes 3v3
Or heads drop
Beer Hunter says (5:15 PM)
As a player and as an staffer I can say there is a lot to me that nobody knows of. I must work under the owner. He is like your boss, if you dont do what your boss says at work, how long will you have a job?
Beer Hunter says (5:16 PM)
Anyway falc, leave my name out of this. I am not evil in any way.
Beer Hunter says (5:27 PM)
btw you should see the new piranha movie if u havent, hilarious stuff
Michael says (5:31 PM)
sorry had to get ready
Beer Hunter says (5:31 PM)
for what
Michael says (5:31 PM)
gym
Michael says (5:32 PM)
well i dont think anyone is evil
meh i dont know this is all stupid
stupid compounded by hochs ban
to make it even more stupid
=p
piranha
Michael says (5:33 PM)
i wanted to see that fin movie but havent had time to look for a torrent with english subtitles
hoch makes this whole thing stupid
Michael says (5:34 PM)
if i was hoch i would have resigned already
and let someone else try
igger said he could run tyranize better
and what did i do squad kick him no
i gave him squad
and let him run it
Michael says (5:35 PM)
its clear hoch has no time / doesn't care
and that the zone dying with him in charge
anyone with a sense of anything would know its time to 1. improve something 2. get out of the way and let someone else try
Michael says (5:36 PM)
but hoch does 3. neither
I am getting to the changes in DSB but to make such a list requires a basis for the list, and context. Which I am providing - with ample proof. And of course Beer Hunter being an Smod - his statements in this log, will provide certain support for my advice on what DSB desperately needs.
Some of the main Points Beer Hunter mentions. Such points are important to note from an smod who has been with DSB 11 years.
- Beer clearly states his opinion that there should be a committee of some kind. Either all being of equal power, and even if that's not the case at least a committee of staff that discusses things together should exist.
- Beer clearly says Hoch is too inactive for the zone
- Beer clearly states that more communication ie between staff and between players is required in DSB.
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